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TheTimmy
PostPosted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 14:38    Post subject: Russian - Petroff Reply with quote

Petroff:

1. e2-e4 e7-e5
2. Ng1-f3 Ng8-f6

These are the first 2 moves of the Russian/Petroff opening.

I'd like to discuss some variations of this opening.

3. Nb1-c3

3. d4

3. Nf3xe5

Anyone ideas?
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TheTimmy
PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 2:20    Post subject: Reply with quote

what about:

1 e4 e5
2 Nf3 Nf6
3 d4 Nxe5
4 Bd3 d5
5 Nxe5 Nd7
6 Nxf7 (no theory, but with interesting moves)

accepting is not possible, white will have a very strong position then and will invade the the position of the black king.

6 ... Qe7

This move should be followed by Qe2, but white plays:

7 Nxh8

Let's discuss how to play on now (I've played it with black on the open Dutch Championship and studied it afterwards, so I hope you can give me some interesting stuff to think about it)
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TheTimmy
PostPosted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 3:13    Post subject: Reply with quote

noone?
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Ercan
PostPosted: Fri Dec 22, 2006 21:42    Post subject: Reply with quote

Timmy,
Thanks for your help about chess..But I request you spell chess notation in english. For example P or L ?... P is Knight I think..But L may be Bishop may be Queen?...I think you understood what I mean..

Regards
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florrat
PostPosted: Fri Dec 22, 2006 22:16    Post subject: Reply with quote

Knight wrote:
Timmy,
Thanks for your help about chess..But I request you spell chess notation in english. For example P or L ?... P is Knight I think..But L may be Bishop may be Queen?...I think you understood what I mean..

Regards
Laughing
*nothing* is pawn (P)
L is bishop (B)
P is knight (N)
T is rook (R)
D is queen (Q)
K is King (K)
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TheTimmy
PostPosted: Sat Dec 23, 2006 4:31    Post subject: Reply with quote

oops, you are right, I used the Dutch notation. Thanks to Florrat for the real help.
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Glorfindel
PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 11:42    Post subject: Reply with quote

I changed the notation to English.
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Rastaro
PostPosted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 9:01    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheTimmy wrote:
what about:

1 e4 e5
2 Nf3 Nf6
3 d4 Nxe5
4 Bd3 d5
5 Nxe5 Nd7
6 Nxf7 (no theory, but with interesting moves)

accepting is not possible, white will have a very strong position then and will invade the the position of the black king.

6 ... Qe7

This move should be followed by Qe2, but white plays:

7 Nxh8

Let's discuss how to play on now (I've played it with black on the open Dutch Championship and studied it afterwards, so I hope you can give me some interesting stuff to think about it)


Hi Timmy

I only saw this post now. I have been playing the Petrov Defence as Black recently so am interested in your ideas here.

I think 7 Nxh8 is rather tricky and I myself would opt for the safer

7 Qd2

BUT to follow your move idea

7 Nxh8 / Nc3 - which by the way is C43 the Steinitz variation / Symmetrical variation

8 Kd2 / Nxd8 - ouch Sad
9 Re1 / Nxf2
10 Bxh7 / Ne5
11 Rxe5 / Be6
12 Bg8 / Qh4
13 Rxe6 / Kd7
14

At this stage I think I would rather be black and I think Black hs the advantage.

I await with interest your thinking on this.

Rohi
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TheTimmy
PostPosted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 20:02    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rastaro wrote:


I think 7 Nxh8 is rather tricky and I myself would opt for the safer

7 Qd2


hmmm, that would be followed by Nxf2
Rastaro wrote:

BUT to follow your move idea

7 Nxh8 / Nc3 - which by the way is C43 the Steinitz variation / Symmetrical variation

8 Kd2 / Nxd8 - ouch Sad
9 Re1 / Nxf2
10 Bxh7 / Ne5

Please note that
10 ... Ne4
11 Rxe4 dxe4
12 Lg6+ Kd8
13 Pf7+
Leads towards a draw, which is good for white.
Rastaro wrote:


11 Rxe5 / Be6
12 Bg8 / Qh4
13 Rxe6 / Kd7

According to the theory you are not following the best lines.
12 Bg8 should be replaced by
12 Bg6+ Kd7
now there are some variances with 12 Bf7 and 12 Bf5. I don't have time to write them all down, that might follow later.

12 ... Qh4 was indeed the best answer, but should be followed by 13 Ng6 according to the theory. Anyway, both lines will be won by black Razz
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TheTimmy
PostPosted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 20:03    Post subject: Reply with quote

but the overall idea of your moves is very good!
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