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TheTimmy
PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 3:16    Post subject: b4 Reply with quote
I worked out once a lot of variances of the sockolsky opening (also called Orang Oetan). I paste them here, without judging them. Anyone comments on the variances?

1…e5 2 Lb2 Lxb4 3 Lxe5 Pf6 4 c4 0-0 5 Pf3 Pc6 6 Lb2 d5 7 cxd5 Pxd5 8 g3
1…e5 2 Lb2 Lxb4 3 Lxe5 Pf6 4 c4 0-0 5 Pf3 Pc6 6 Lb2 d5 7 cxd5 Dxd5 8 Lxf6 gxf6 9 e3 Lg4
1…e5 2 Lb2 Lxb4 3 Lxe5 Pf6 4 c4 0-0 5 Pf3 Pc6 6 Lb2 d6 7 e3
1…e5 2 Lb2 Lxb4 3 Lxe5 Pf6 4 c4 0-0 5 Pf3 Pc6 6 Lb2 Te8 7 e3
1…e5 2 Lb2 Lxb4 3 Lxe5 Pf6 4 c4 0-0 5 Pf3 d5 6 cxd5 Pxd5 7 e3
1…e5 2 Lb2 Lxb4 3 Lxe5 Pf6 4 c4 0-0 5 Pf3 d5 6 cxd5 Pbd7 7 Lb2 Pxd5 8 e3
1…e5 2 Lb2 Lxb4 3 Lxe5 Pf6 4 c4 0-0 5 Pf3 Te8 6 e3
1…e5 2 Lb2 Lxb4 3 Lxe5 Pf6 4 c4 0-0 5 Pf3 Le7 6 e3
1…e5 2 Lb2 Lxb4 3 Lxe5 Pf6 4 c4 Pc6 5 Lb2 0-0 6 Pf3 (same as variant 1-4)
1…e5 2 Lb2 Lxb4 3 Lxe5 f6 4 Lb2 d5 5 e3
1…e5 2 Lb2 f6 3 e4 Lxb4 4 Lc4 Pc6 5 Lxg8 Txg8 6 Dh5
1…e5 2 Lb2 f6 3 e4 Lxb4 4 Lc4 Pe7 5 Dh5 g6 6 Dh4
1…e5 2 Lb2 f6 3 e4 Lxb4 4 Lc4 Pe7 5 Dh5 Pg6 6 Pf3
1…e5 2 Lb2 f6 3 e4 d5 4 exd5 Lxb4

1…d5 2 Lb2 Pf6 3 e3 e6 4 a3 c5 5 bxc5 Lxc5 6 d4
1…d5 2 Lb2 Pf6 3 e3 e6 4 a3 a5 5 b5
1…d5 2 Lb2 Pf6 3 e3 Lf5 4 Pf3 e6 5 c4
1…d5 2 Lb2 Pf6 3 e3 e5 4 a3 Dd6 5 Pf3 Pbd7 6 c4
1…d5 2 Lb2 Pf6 3 e3 e5 4 a3 Dd6 5 Pf3 e4 6 Pd4
1…d5 2 Lb2 Pf6 3 e3 e5 4 a3 Ld6 5 Pf3
1…d5 2 Lb2 Dd6 3 a3 e5 4 Pf3 Pbd7 5 e3 Pgf6 6 c4 c6 7 cxd5
1…d5 2 Lb2 Dd6 3 a3 e5 4 Pf3 f6 5 e3
1…d5 2 Lb2 Dd6 3 a3 e5 4 Pf3 e4 5 Pd4 Pf6 6 e3
1…d5 2 Lb2 Lf5 3 e3 Pf6 4 Pf3 e6 5 a3
1…d5 2 Lb2 e6 3 e3 Pf6 4 a3
1…d5 2 Lb2 Lg4 3 h3

1…c6 2 Lb2 a5 3 a3 Db6 4 c4 axb4 5 c5 Dc7 6 axb4 Txa1 7 Lxa1 Pf6 8 Pf3
1…c6 2 Lb2 a5 3 a3 Db6 4 c4 d6 5 Pc3 Pf6 6 b5
1…c6 2 Lb2 a5 3 a3 Db6 4 c4 d6 5 Pc3 axb4 6 axb4 Txa1 7 Dxa1 Pf6 8 b5
1…c6 2 Lb2 a5 3 a3 Db6 4 c4 d6 5 Pc3 axb4 6 axb4 Txa1 7 Dxa1 Dxb4 8 Pd1 Pf6 9 Lxf6 exf6 10 Da8
1…c6 2 Lb2 a5 3 a3 Db6 4 c4 e6 5 d4
1…c6 2 Lb2 a5 3 a3 Db6 4 c4 d5 5 c5
1…c6 2 Lb2 a5 3 a3 Db6 4 c4 Pf6 5 c5
1…c6 2 Lb2 a5 3 a3 axb4 4 axb4 Txa1 5 Lxa1 Db6 6 c3
1…c6 2 Lb2 Db6 3 a3 a5 4 c4 (see also 2 .. a5, 3 … Db6)
1…c6 2 Lb2 d5 3 e3 Pf6 4 Pf3 Lg4 5 h3 (later c4 will be played)
1…c6 2 Lb2 d5 3 e3 Pf6 4 Pf3 Pbd7 5 c4 e6 6 a3
1…c6 2 Lb2 d5 3 e3 Pf6 4 Pf3 Pbd7 5 c4 dxc4 6 lxc4
1…c6 2 Lb2 d5 3 e3 Pf6 4 Pf3 e6 5 a3
1…c6 2 Lb2 d5 3 e3 Dd6 4 a3
1…c6 2 Lb2 d5 3 e3 Db6 4 a3 a5 5 b5 cxb5 6 Pc3 Pf6 7 pxb5 and 8 Tb1 (except for Lg4)
1…c6 2 Lb2 d5 3 e3 Db6 4 a3 a5 5 b5 cxb5 6 Pc3 e6 7 pxb5 and 8 Tb1 (except for Lg4)
1…c6 2 Lb2 d5 3 e3 Db6 4 a3 a5 5 b5 Pf6 6 Pf3
1…c6 2 Lb2 d5 3 e3 Db6 4 a3 a5 5 b5 Pd7 6 Pf3
1…c6 2 Lb2 d5 3 e3 Db6 4 a3 a5 5 b5 e6 6 Pc3
1…c6 2 Lb2 d5 3 e3 Db6 4 a3 Lf5 5 Pf3 Pf6 6 c4
1…c6 2 Lb2 d5 3 e3 Db6 4 a3 Lf5 5 Pf3 e6 6 c4
1…c6 2 Lb2 d5 3 e3 Db6 4 a3 Lf5 5 Pf3 Pd7 6 c4
1…c6 2 Lb2 d5 3 e3 Db6 4 a3 Pf6 5 Pf3
1…c6 2 Lb2 d5 3 e3 Lf5 4 Pf3 e6 5 c4 e6 6 a3
1…c6 2 Lb2 d5 3 e3 Lf5 4 Pf3 Pf6 5 c4
1…c6 2 Lb2 Pf6 3 c4 e6 4 a3 d5 5 e3
1…c6 2 Lb2 Pf6 3 c4 e6 4 a3 a5 5 b5 cxb5 6 cxb5 d5 7 e3
1…c6 2 Lb2 Pf6 3 c4 e6 4 a3 Le7 5 Pf3 0-0 6 e3
1…c6 2 Lb2 Pf6 3 c4 e5 4 a3 d5 5 Lxe5 dxc4 6 e3
1…c6 2 Lb2 Pf6 3 c4 e5 4 a3 d6 5 Pc3
1…c6 2 Lb2 Pf6 3 c4 e5 4 a3 a5 5 Lxe5 axb4 6 axb4 Txa1 7 Lxa1 Lxb4 8 Db3
1…c6 2 Lb2 Pf6 3 c4 e5 4 a3 Dc7 5 Pc3
1…c6 2 Lb2 Pf6 3 c4 d5 4 cxd5 Pxd5 5 a3

1…e6 2 Lb2 Pf6 3 a3 en 4 e3 (next moves: c4, Pf3 and Pc3)
1…e6 2 Lb2 d5 3 e3 Pf6 4 a3 c5 5 bxc5 Lxb5 6 Pf3
1…e6 2 Lb2 f5 3 e4 fxe4 4 Dh5+
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Rastaro
PostPosted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 9:51    Post subject: Re: b4 Reply with quote
TheTimmy wrote:
I worked out once a lot of variances of the sockolsky opening (also called Orang Oetan). I paste them here, without judging them. Anyone comments on the variances?

1…e5 2 Lb2 Lxb4 3 Lxe5 Pf6 4 c4 0-0 5 Pf3 Pc6 6 Lb2 d5 7 cxd5 Pxd5 8 g3
1…e5 2 Lb2 Lxb4 3 Lxe5 Pf6 4 c4 0-0 5 Pf3 Pc6 6 Lb2 d5 7 cxd5 Dxd5 8 Lxf6 gxf6 9 e3 Lg4
1…e5 2 Lb2 Lxb4 3 Lxe5 Pf6 4 c4 0-0 5 Pf3 Pc6 6 Lb2 d6 7 e3
1…e5 2 Lb2 Lxb4 3 Lxe5 Pf6 4 c4 0-0 5 Pf3 Pc6 6 Lb2 Te8 7 e3
1…e5 2 Lb2 Lxb4 3 Lxe5 Pf6 4 c4 0-0 5 Pf3 d5 6 cxd5 Pxd5 7 e3
1…e5 2 Lb2 Lxb4 3 Lxe5 Pf6 4 c4 0-0 5 Pf3 d5 6 cxd5 Pbd7 7 Lb2 Pxd5 8 e3
1…e5 2 Lb2 Lxb4 3 Lxe5 Pf6 4 c4 0-0 5 Pf3 Te8 6 e3
1…e5 2 Lb2 Lxb4 3 Lxe5 Pf6 4 c4 0-0 5 Pf3 Le7 6 e3
1…e5 2 Lb2 Lxb4 3 Lxe5 Pf6 4 c4 Pc6 5 Lb2 0-0 6 Pf3 (same as variant 1-4)
1…e5 2 Lb2 Lxb4 3 Lxe5 f6 4 Lb2 d5 5 e3
1…e5 2 Lb2 f6 3 e4 Lxb4 4 Lc4 Pc6 5 Lxg8 Txg8 6 Dh5
1…e5 2 Lb2 f6 3 e4 Lxb4 4 Lc4 Pe7 5 Dh5 g6 6 Dh4
1…e5 2 Lb2 f6 3 e4 Lxb4 4 Lc4 Pe7 5 Dh5 Pg6 6 Pf3
1…e5 2 Lb2 f6 3 e4 d5 4 exd5 Lxb4

1…d5 2 Lb2 Pf6 3 e3 e6 4 a3 c5 5 bxc5 Lxc5 6 d4
1…d5 2 Lb2 Pf6 3 e3 e6 4 a3 a5 5 b5
1…d5 2 Lb2 Pf6 3 e3 Lf5 4 Pf3 e6 5 c4
1…d5 2 Lb2 Pf6 3 e3 e5 4 a3 Dd6 5 Pf3 Pbd7 6 c4
1…d5 2 Lb2 Pf6 3 e3 e5 4 a3 Dd6 5 Pf3 e4 6 Pd4
1…d5 2 Lb2 Pf6 3 e3 e5 4 a3 Ld6 5 Pf3
1…d5 2 Lb2 Dd6 3 a3 e5 4 Pf3 Pbd7 5 e3 Pgf6 6 c4 c6 7 cxd5
1…d5 2 Lb2 Dd6 3 a3 e5 4 Pf3 f6 5 e3
1…d5 2 Lb2 Dd6 3 a3 e5 4 Pf3 e4 5 Pd4 Pf6 6 e3
1…d5 2 Lb2 Lf5 3 e3 Pf6 4 Pf3 e6 5 a3
1…d5 2 Lb2 e6 3 e3 Pf6 4 a3
1…d5 2 Lb2 Lg4 3 h3

1…c6 2 Lb2 a5 3 a3 Db6 4 c4 axb4 5 c5 Dc7 6 axb4 Txa1 7 Lxa1 Pf6 8 Pf3
1…c6 2 Lb2 a5 3 a3 Db6 4 c4 d6 5 Pc3 Pf6 6 b5
1…c6 2 Lb2 a5 3 a3 Db6 4 c4 d6 5 Pc3 axb4 6 axb4 Txa1 7 Dxa1 Pf6 8 b5
1…c6 2 Lb2 a5 3 a3 Db6 4 c4 d6 5 Pc3 axb4 6 axb4 Txa1 7 Dxa1 Dxb4 8 Pd1 Pf6 9 Lxf6 exf6 10 Da8
1…c6 2 Lb2 a5 3 a3 Db6 4 c4 e6 5 d4
1…c6 2 Lb2 a5 3 a3 Db6 4 c4 d5 5 c5
1…c6 2 Lb2 a5 3 a3 Db6 4 c4 Pf6 5 c5
1…c6 2 Lb2 a5 3 a3 axb4 4 axb4 Txa1 5 Lxa1 Db6 6 c3
1…c6 2 Lb2 Db6 3 a3 a5 4 c4 (see also 2 .. a5, 3 … Db6)
1…c6 2 Lb2 d5 3 e3 Pf6 4 Pf3 Lg4 5 h3 (later c4 will be played)
1…c6 2 Lb2 d5 3 e3 Pf6 4 Pf3 Pbd7 5 c4 e6 6 a3
1…c6 2 Lb2 d5 3 e3 Pf6 4 Pf3 Pbd7 5 c4 dxc4 6 lxc4
1…c6 2 Lb2 d5 3 e3 Pf6 4 Pf3 e6 5 a3
1…c6 2 Lb2 d5 3 e3 Dd6 4 a3
1…c6 2 Lb2 d5 3 e3 Db6 4 a3 a5 5 b5 cxb5 6 Pc3 Pf6 7 pxb5 and 8 Tb1 (except for Lg4)
1…c6 2 Lb2 d5 3 e3 Db6 4 a3 a5 5 b5 cxb5 6 Pc3 e6 7 pxb5 and 8 Tb1 (except for Lg4)
1…c6 2 Lb2 d5 3 e3 Db6 4 a3 a5 5 b5 Pf6 6 Pf3
1…c6 2 Lb2 d5 3 e3 Db6 4 a3 a5 5 b5 Pd7 6 Pf3
1…c6 2 Lb2 d5 3 e3 Db6 4 a3 a5 5 b5 e6 6 Pc3
1…c6 2 Lb2 d5 3 e3 Db6 4 a3 Lf5 5 Pf3 Pf6 6 c4
1…c6 2 Lb2 d5 3 e3 Db6 4 a3 Lf5 5 Pf3 e6 6 c4
1…c6 2 Lb2 d5 3 e3 Db6 4 a3 Lf5 5 Pf3 Pd7 6 c4
1…c6 2 Lb2 d5 3 e3 Db6 4 a3 Pf6 5 Pf3
1…c6 2 Lb2 d5 3 e3 Lf5 4 Pf3 e6 5 c4 e6 6 a3
1…c6 2 Lb2 d5 3 e3 Lf5 4 Pf3 Pf6 5 c4
1…c6 2 Lb2 Pf6 3 c4 e6 4 a3 d5 5 e3
1…c6 2 Lb2 Pf6 3 c4 e6 4 a3 a5 5 b5 cxb5 6 cxb5 d5 7 e3
1…c6 2 Lb2 Pf6 3 c4 e6 4 a3 Le7 5 Pf3 0-0 6 e3
1…c6 2 Lb2 Pf6 3 c4 e5 4 a3 d5 5 Lxe5 dxc4 6 e3
1…c6 2 Lb2 Pf6 3 c4 e5 4 a3 d6 5 Pc3
1…c6 2 Lb2 Pf6 3 c4 e5 4 a3 a5 5 Lxe5 axb4 6 axb4 Txa1 7 Lxa1 Lxb4 8 Db3
1…c6 2 Lb2 Pf6 3 c4 e5 4 a3 Dc7 5 Pc3
1…c6 2 Lb2 Pf6 3 c4 d5 4 cxd5 Pxd5 5 a3

1…e6 2 Lb2 Pf6 3 a3 en 4 e3 (next moves: c4, Pf3 and Pc3)
1…e6 2 Lb2 d5 3 e3 Pf6 4 a3 c5 5 bxc5 Lxb5 6 Pf3
1…e6 2 Lb2 f5 3 e4 fxe4 4 Dh5+


Hi Timmy

I used to play the Orang Otan as White especially in speed Chess games and have had some success with it but against a good opponent playing Black it is not easy to convert the Opening Knowledge into a win as one has trouble gaining loss tempo.

Rohi
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TheTimmy
PostPosted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 20:44    Post subject: Reply with quote
Your wins are in using your bisshops well. You can easily take some diagonals for yourself with bishops at b2 and c2
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