Yourturnmyturn.com Forum of yourturnmyturn.com    FAQ   Search   Memberlist   Usergroups   Profile   Preferences   Log in to check your private messages   Log in  Yourturnmyturn.com Forum Index -> YourturnMyturn.com Forum -> Games -> Chess -> Chess lessons -> Russian - Petroff View previous topic :: View next topic   Author Message TheTimmy Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 15:38    Post subject: Russian - Petroff Petroff: 1. e2-e4 e7-e5 2. Ng1-f3 Ng8-f6 These are the first 2 moves of the Russian/Petroff opening. I'd like to discuss some variations of this opening. 3. Nb1-c3 3. d4 3. Nf3xe5 Anyone ideas? Back to top TheTimmy Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 3:20    Post subject: what about: 1 e4 e5 2 Nf3 Nf6 3 d4 Nxe5 4 Bd3 d5 5 Nxe5 Nd7 6 Nxf7 (no theory, but with interesting moves) accepting is not possible, white will have a very strong position then and will invade the the position of the black king. 6 ... Qe7 This move should be followed by Qe2, but white plays: 7 Nxh8 Let's discuss how to play on now (I've played it with black on the open Dutch Championship and studied it afterwards, so I hope you can give me some interesting stuff to think about it) Back to top TheTimmy Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 4:13    Post subject: noone? Back to top Ercan Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2006 22:42    Post subject: Timmy, Thanks for your help about chess..But I request you spell chess notation in english. For example P or L ?... P is Knight I think..But L may be Bishop may be Queen?...I think you understood what I mean.. Regards Back to top florrat Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2006 23:16    Post subject: Knight wrote: Timmy, Thanks for your help about chess..But I request you spell chess notation in english. For example P or L ?... P is Knight I think..But L may be Bishop may be Queen?...I think you understood what I mean.. Regards *nothing* is pawn (P) L is bishop (B) P is knight (N) T is rook (R) D is queen (Q) K is King (K) Back to top TheTimmy Posted: Sat Dec 23, 2006 5:31    Post subject: oops, you are right, I used the Dutch notation. Thanks to Florrat for the real help. Back to top Glorfindel Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 12:42    Post subject: I changed the notation to English. Back to top Rastaro Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 10:01    Post subject: TheTimmy wrote: what about: 1 e4 e5 2 Nf3 Nf6 3 d4 Nxe5 4 Bd3 d5 5 Nxe5 Nd7 6 Nxf7 (no theory, but with interesting moves) accepting is not possible, white will have a very strong position then and will invade the the position of the black king. 6 ... Qe7 This move should be followed by Qe2, but white plays: 7 Nxh8 Let's discuss how to play on now (I've played it with black on the open Dutch Championship and studied it afterwards, so I hope you can give me some interesting stuff to think about it) Hi Timmy I only saw this post now. I have been playing the Petrov Defence as Black recently so am interested in your ideas here. I think 7 Nxh8 is rather tricky and I myself would opt for the safer 7 Qd2 BUT to follow your move idea 7 Nxh8 / Nc3 - which by the way is C43 the Steinitz variation / Symmetrical variation 8 Kd2 / Nxd8 - ouch 9 Re1 / Nxf2 10 Bxh7 / Ne5 11 Rxe5 / Be6 12 Bg8 / Qh4 13 Rxe6 / Kd7 14 At this stage I think I would rather be black and I think Black hs the advantage. I await with interest your thinking on this. Rohi Back to top TheTimmy Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 21:02    Post subject: Rastaro wrote: I think 7 Nxh8 is rather tricky and I myself would opt for the safer 7 Qd2 hmmm, that would be followed by Nxf2 Rastaro wrote: BUT to follow your move idea 7 Nxh8 / Nc3 - which by the way is C43 the Steinitz variation / Symmetrical variation 8 Kd2 / Nxd8 - ouch 9 Re1 / Nxf2 10 Bxh7 / Ne5 Please note that 10 ... Ne4 11 Rxe4 dxe4 12 Lg6+ Kd8 13 Pf7+ Leads towards a draw, which is good for white. Rastaro wrote: 11 Rxe5 / Be6 12 Bg8 / Qh4 13 Rxe6 / Kd7 According to the theory you are not following the best lines. 12 Bg8 should be replaced by 12 Bg6+ Kd7 now there are some variances with 12 Bf7 and 12 Bf5. I don't have time to write them all down, that might follow later. 12 ... Qh4 was indeed the best answer, but should be followed by 13 Ng6 according to the theory. Anyway, both lines will be won by black Back to top TheTimmy Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 21:03    Post subject: but the overall idea of your moves is very good! 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